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Alduin vs Morgoth
Topic Started: Jun 7 2015, 06:24 PM (1,565 Views)
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Both are at full power and aiming for the kill instead of being cocky.
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accorfing to the vsbattles Alduin godstops...

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He's kind of overhyped there. He is certainly not multiversal, probably not universal either. His more definite feats are more in the lieu of planet tier, with devouring planet sized Daedra with ease.
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Jun 7 2015, 07:20 PM
He's kind of overhyped there. He is certainly not multiversal, probably not universal either. His more definite feats are more in the lieu of planet tier, with devouring planet sized Daedra with ease.
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Well according to the Lore....Since each plane(t) is an infinite mass of infinite size, as yet surrounded by the Void of Oblivion, the mortal eye registers them as bubbles within a space. Planets are magical and impossible. The eight planets correspond to the Eight Divines. They are all present on the Dwarven Orrery, along with the mortal planet, Nirn.

Meaning Alduin can destroy/consume at least a single infinite realm/Universe, making him a Universe level. He obviously isn't an Aedra or Daedra so he isn't Multiverse(Multiple Realm/Plane) level, otherwise he would target more than just Nirn for destruction/consumption.



Thats something

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Alduin is a b*** to quantify
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Morgoth is at average a +Star-buster and has insane regenerative powers.
At full power he must be insanely powerful.

How good is Alduin compared to the one in the game?
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Here we talk about the lore alduin...I guess which could change his size freely so that he could devour Nirn itself

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Jun 8 2015, 05:48 PM
Morgoth is at average a +Star-buster and has insane regenerative powers.
At full power he must be insanely powerful.

How good is Alduin compared to the one in the game?
Alduin eats Daedra, which are each a world in their own right. The problem lies in the fact that world could mean either planet or universe. Aside from that, Alduin is just a versatile fighter, knowing all shouts
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Isn't Alduin also immortal without dragonrend?
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Jun 8 2015, 09:05 PM
Isn't Alduin also immortal without dragonrend?
No, he's just immortal in general. Being killed by anyone but the Dragonborn just respawns him in Sovngarde and being killed by the Dragonborn stalls him for some time but he'll still reincarnate. For the sake of equilibrium, he can't respawn spam
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Is this Morgoth after taking a physical body or before, when he was just the second most powerful creature in the Universe? Composite Morgoth, maybe?

If with physical body: I can see him taking down Morgoth and corrupting him to turn into one of his several dragon pets.
If as a Vala: I'd say Morgoth completely rapestomps, as he was capable of withstand the power of all the other Valar who created the Universe plus Iluvatar who is the God of everything and according to Tolkien, he was still powerful enough to counter their attacks (which were strangley enough launched as music melodies, and not as actual projectiles or weapons or anything... Lethal melodies nonetheless...).
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That all depends on whether or not Alduin's world eating refers to the universe or to planets. Not to mention he's quite magic resistant, Sheogorath is a reality warper and he doesn't dare take on Alduin
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Sauron can warp Earth like nothing and he's Morgoth's Starscream. And I'd say "world-eating" refers to what we humans know and call "the World", which is the planet where we stand. I mean, how would he devour the Universe? Are there really creatures powerful enough to bust dimensions on the Elder Scrolls mythos?
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Sauron can warp Earth like nothing and he's Morgoth's Starscream. And I'd say "world-eating" refers to what we humans know and call "the World", which is the planet where we stand. I mean, how would he devour the Universe? Are there really creatures powerful enough to bust dimensions on the Elder Scrolls mythos?
Anu created the universe as a side effect from punching Sithis, I'd say so. Alduin isn't as powerful, but he's the seventh strongest of the gods(second most powerful at the time of Skyrim due to a lot of the others being indisposed). Alduin being capable of devouring the universe refers to the fact that Daedric Princes and gods are realms unto themselves as well as planets. If Alduin can not only devour the god or Daedric Prince, but their realm as well, that makes him a universe buster. But it's all very ambiguous and not very clear cut at all.

Also, Sauron's reality warping is nowhere near as impressive as even the weakest of the ES deities. Even the Graybeards can shake the continent with their shouts, nevermind what the actual powerhouses can do.
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Jun 9 2015, 01:37 PM
Sauron can warp Earth like nothing and he's Morgoth's Starscream. And I'd say "world-eating" refers to what we humans know and call "the World", which is the planet where we stand. I mean, how would he devour the Universe? Are there really creatures powerful enough to bust dimensions on the Elder Scrolls mythos?

Also, Sauron's reality warping is nowhere near as impressive as even the weakest of the ES deities. Even the Graybeards can shake the continent with their shouts, nevermind what the actual powerhouses can do.
He controls the Earth and changes the playground as he wishes. That's pretty impressive, he can warp an entire planet with ease, because it's his to rule. And he might be a planet buster, so they're pretty even if we take Alduin as a planet buster aswell.

Is Alduin cocky or self-centered? Because if he isn't, he might have the edge against Sauron who is pretty cocky, even if he is pretty good at fighting.
And I also think Sauron's manipulation powers won't work on this dragon if he's on a similar level as he is.
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